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• Comment Link 31 July, 07 posted by single_avst

  So — have been messing about with this thing for something like five months now and I keep coming back, so thought I'd say something since a lad on another thread asked me a few days back. Am based in the UK, mainly bet football and racing, small stakes, for context.
  
  The reason I started using it was actually embarrassing — I never could get my head round what an each way payout would be once you get five places instead of three. I used to just wing it and moan when the payout landed. Now I punch the numbers in before every slip, even the boring singles.
  
  The single bet calculator tool is the bit I use most — you put in your stake, the odds and it shows profit and total return instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn't matter. Same tool covers the bigger stuff — trebles returns, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, which is where most people I know mess it up. Have a go yourself, it's here lucky 15 bet calculator and there's no login wall, which I appreciated.
  
  The thing that really shifted things for me was the geekier extras. They've got an odds-to-probability thing which shows you how much the bookie's taking, and a kelly tool — I stick to fractional kelly because full kelly is terrifying. Dutching calculator is decent for when I'm covering two or three runners.
  
  Couple of gripes. The layout is a bit basic — zero flash, it's clearly function over form. On my phone it's fine although the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. There's nothing on the app store, just the site — doesn't bother me but you asked.
  
  Right, that's me. Free, not plastered in adverts, does the job. Anyone who even now does the maths on paper, have a look — it's saved me a load of "wait, that's it?" moments.
• Comment Link 31 July, 07 posted by single_bjpa

  OK — been using this thing for something like five months now and I keep coming back, reckon I'd write something up since a lad on another thread asked me last week. Am in the UK, mostly bet football and racing, nothing mad, just so you know where I'm coming from.
  
  The reason I started using it was honestly pretty stupid — I could never get my head round what an e/w payout would be once you get five places instead of three. Basically I'd eyeball it and then be surprised. These days I punch the numbers in before every slip, even a straight one-selection punt.
  
  The single bet calculator tool is the part I open most — you drop in stake and odds and you get the return straight away, fractions or decimals. There's also the bigger stuff — trebles maths, lucky 15s, patents and yankees, which is where I'd always mess it up. If you want a look, it's here how to work out a lucky 15 and it's free with no account nonsense.
  
  What really changed how I bet was the more serious extras. They've got an probability converter that shows how much the bookie's taking, and there's the kelly criterion tool — I stick to fractional kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. The dutch tool is decent if I'm splitting a race.
  
  It's not perfect mind. Its layout looks very functional, let's say — not much polish, it's clearly function over form. On mobile it's usable though the acca grid are a squeeze. There's no proper app, it's browser only — fine by me but worth saying.
  
  Anyway. Costs nowt, barely any ads, does the job. If you honestly adds it up in their head, give it a go — saved me plenty of "wait, that's it?" moments.
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